Logos 7 Arrives: Theotek Podcast #077

Faithlife shipped Logos 7. The update comes with a lot of new features for users of Logos 6. Logos Now users will feel like it’s a pretty minor update.

We covered the major new features in Logos 7 and talked about how users can upgrade or subscribe to Logos Now.

What’s New in Logos 7

Logos 7 Quickstart Layouts

Logos 7 incorporates a bunch of new features including the QuickStart Layouts accessible from the Layouts menu. You’ll find it on the toolbar towards the right next to the question mark icon. A box pops up and along the left inside that box you’ll see a list of layouts. The top section shows your QuickStart Layouts. Think of them as predefined layouts ready for your use. Logos lets users arrange all the books on their desk the way they prefer and then save the layout. See the Saved Layouts in the bottom of the left hand list in the screenshot above. The QuickStart Layouts are layouts made by Logos designers.

Logos 7 Sermon Editor

The Sermon Editor, accessed from the Sermon item in the Documents menu, gives users a sermon creation tool inside Logos 7. The sermons become searchable and show up when the user creates a Passage Guide search on a passage that includes a Sermon made in Sermon Editor.

Inside the Sermon Editor users can instantly add the text of Bible verses by typing the reference. It will replace the reference with the text of that passage.

Logos 7 Sermon Editor Export Tool

The editor also makes slides instantly out of Headings, Bible passages and more. The user can export these slides to Faithlife’s Proclaim presentation service or PowerPoint and others.

Courses Tool creation screen

The Courses Tool takes advantage of the Mobile Education feature introduced in earlier versions of Logos. The Courses quickly takes content from a user’s library and creates a course. This feature will eventually make it possible for a person to make a course on their own or for teachers and professors to create their own courses for use in Sunday school classes, small groups or formal education settings. Until that happens in a future version, the user must use some of the courses already included in their library. It comes with some and users can buy more.

Select from the list along the left of the tool’s box that shows up when you open it from the Tools menu. Click a course and it offers to set it up on for a specific number of days or you can customize how fast you want to move through the course.

There’s a long list of new features with links to explanations of what the new features are in the Logos forums.

Samsung Galaxy Note 7

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After looking at Logos 7, I showed off my new Samsung Galaxy Note 7. The Note 7 is a great Android phone with an active Stylus and now includes a USB Type-C connector. It has a great screen and camera. I love this phone.

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Logos Cloud: A Subscription Based Online Bible Library

The idea of an online Bible study tool seems enticing to a lot of digital Bible students today. Logos Cloud is a subscription-based Bible study library for anywhere from $9/month to $100/month with the promise of a powerful online web app coming in the future. Are you interested in renting your theological library and using it on the web? Would you pay anywhere from $9 to $100 for it? Would you sign up before Faithlife finishes the online part of the service?

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Logos Cloud is an online theological library focused on new users of the Bible software. Would you pay to rent a theological library?

How Much is Logos Cloud

Head on over to LogosCloud.com to find out more about the service. Here’s the basics.

  1. It’s intended for new customers, not people who already own large libraries since they’d essentially be paying to rent what they already own.
  2. The name’s a bit of a misnomer since Logos doesn’t yet offer a robust online solution. For now, even “Logos Cloud” subscribers will want to download and install the desktop app to get the full features of Logos Bible Software.
  3. Not all books will be available since some publishers are stuck in 1991 when there wasn’t an Internet prevalent in society and they don’t want people using digital books for fear they will pirate it, which by the way tempts people to pirate more than they would if said publishers would wake up and get a clue.
  4. The service costs as follows:
    1. Essentials – $8.99 for a basic set of tools in a “small theological library” that focuses on understanding, reading and searching the English Bible.
    2. Plus – $19.99 for some Greek, Hebrew, original manuscripts, and content on early church fathers. Scholars will want to start at this level.
    3. Premium – $49.99 for the Essentials and the Plus levels of Logos Cloud. This adds the full Logos features set and a large collection of media.
    4. Unnamed – $99.99 for something like the Collector’s Edition of Logos. The LogosCloud.com site doesn’t even mention this subscription level. You have to read Phil Gons’ forum post to know about it.

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We’re not sure yet what subscribers will get for now. We’ll know more after June 1 when free early access starts for those who sign up early. Sign up for the $50 level and you will get early access. Do this by clicking on the button on the LogosCloud.com page that reads: Get free early access. When a person clicks on the green button with that label the next page asks users to share the page via Faithlife’s social network, Twitter, or Facebook. Click Next and this takes users to a page offering to include the person in a Faithlife group devoted to Logos Cloud.

In the “About” section of the Faithlife group for Logos Cloud, we’re told that early access for those who signed up will start on June 1 and end June 30. I suppose early adopters will see the $49.99 charge on their credit cards at that point.

There Should Be Something for Loyal Customers

Faithlife should offer another Logos Cloud subscription level. Owners of large Logos libraries may want more. They should get access to something like the Premium or higher level access for a reduced cost, since such customers will likely already own some or even much of what these levels will offer. I’d certainly change my Logos Now subscription ($8.99/month) over to the Plus or Premium if they cost $20-$30/month.

Logos Web App Not Ready for Primetime

Like Logos Now, the Logos Cloud subscription service comes with access to the online web app. It’s nowhere near ready since many of the features, like the Exegetical Guide, Home Page, Documents Menu and more don’t even work yet. Faithlife just updated the Passage Guide with a rudimentary version. I demoed it on YouTube this week.

I hope the web app gets there, but it’s not really worth $9/month. If you think that Logos Now or Logos Cloud are cloud-based Bible study, you’re wrong. It shows promise, but it’s not there yet.

Logos Now Subscription Monthly Service Launches for $8.99

Logos users expected Faithlife to go to a subscription model since they’ve talked about it for years. Bob Pritchett, CEO of Faithlife, took to the forums to announce Logos Now, their new monthly subscription based service that will give uses access to some content not available otherwise. This also includes a new Web App that’s in very early beta stage.

I signed up for the Logos Now service and went over to the Logos Now Web App, the thing I’m most excited to use, and the user-interface looks a lot like the Logos 6 desktop app, but without most of the features functioning. A number of features don’t work while some do. Others don’t yet show up as available.

What Does and Doesn’t Work in Logos Now Web App

Despite that it’s a beta, or more accurately a non-functioning pre-Alpha, it’s promising. We will hopefully one day see the things we love about Logos, like the tools, library access and syncing of content.

Enter a passage reference and the passage will load. Click on the Library button to open books.

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Click on Documents, Guides and Tools and you’ll get a screen like the one above which says, ‘Check back soon!” This also happens on the Home and Search buttons too. In the upper right we get the layouts, help and account buttons, all non-working.

Sometimes things seem to work fine and other times they fail miserably. For awhile I couldn’t navigate to other passages or scroll through more than a few passages before the window went blank. Then I got logged out, not on purpose. I logged back in and I could move around the Bible. It seems this was a login/logout issue more than anything else.

Table of Contents, at least on my preferred Bible shows nothing. However, other tools in the drop down box that shows up after clicking the Book cover work. I could increase and decrease font size, use column or full screen viewing mode.

Other Things in Logos Now

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Logos Now adds some interesting visuals to the Visual Copy tool new with Logos 6.

Logos Now is a little more than the Web App. Here what’s exclusive to Logos Now subscribers in addition to Logos Now Web App.

  • Old Testament Propositional Outlines Dataset
  • Greek Grammatical Constructions Dataset
  • Commandments of the Law
  • Logos Stock Images, vol. 2
  • Visual Copy Templates for Visual Copy tool new in Logos 6
  • Author Slide Templates for Visual Copy tool new in Logos 6
  • Proclaim Starter for Visual Copy tool new in Logos 6
  • Concordance Tool
  • Media Browser

The Old Testament Propositional Outlines Dataset gets describe as follows:

This visual filter reformats Old Testament text into a narrative outline that labels the purpose or theme of each line, and offers easy-to-read primary points and secondary points. With a click, see how the text flows, how ideas fit together, and how each line relates to the next. This outline also exposes key aspects of biblical narratives, like events, purposes, and characterization. More and more Old Testament books will be added over time, and eventually, this dataset will include the entire Old Testament.

The site says it would cost $39.95 if bought separately, however it’s also exclusive to Logos Now. That means seems to mean buyers can get it outside of the subscription.

Here’s how Faithlife describes the Greek Grammatical Constructions Dataset.

With the Greek Grammatical Constructions Dataset, you can simplify complex constructions with ease. This new dataset identifies grammatical constructions in the New Testament and finds other occurrences of the construction in the Bible. Create visual filters to mark constructions in your favorite Bible as well as find and test your knowledge of rules and constructions. Filter results in the resource menu to make certain constructions easy to spot in future studies and limit your search by book of the Bible.

Faithlife says this would cost $14.95 if they sold it outside the subscription.

Read the description of the Commandments of the Law tool.

The Commandments of the Law Interactive provides information on the 613mitzvoth (commandments) as delineated by Maimonides (Rambam) in the Middle Ages, around 1170 C.E. While the Rabbis freely referred to the 613mitzvoth and agreed on their number, they rarely provided a completed list and therefore understood the commandments differently. These commandments are explicit commandments found within the Torah as understood by the Rabbis. Maimonides distilled the principles for identifying the 613mitzvothand also provided a reliable list. His listcontains 248 positive commandments and 365 negative ones.

 

The Commandments of the Law interactive allows you to group the 613 mitzvoth (commandments) into various categories (State, People, Category, etc.) and track down a specific type of law.

It would cost $5.95. So that’s $61 of content. Add the visual media which would add up to a total of $125 sold separately. It will take you almost 21 months if they added nothing new to buy them at $9/month. That’s not a bad deal, if they do add more content within that time.

New Logos Now Media Browser

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Find the new Media Browser under the Logos desktop app’s Tools menu.

There’s now a Media Browser under the Tools menu. Click it and see all the new media options listed above.

The Media Browser shows image and multimedia files. Use it to teach or preach. Use it to enhance your own personal study. Share images or media online to help others.

Along the left there’s a list with categories of kinds of media or ways of organizing it. Things like tags, kinds, topics, or collections organizes the media.

Should You Subscribe

Yes or no! Not very helpful I know. People who hate subscription software should stay away. Those who like it should sign up. Others, who want the Web App access or want early access to new features that normally wouldn’t become available till Logos 7, should sign up. I signed up for the free 30 day subscription so anyone can get a look for free and cancel if you’re not impressed.

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Logos Bible Android Apps Updated with Much-Needed Fixes

Faithlife, the makers of Logos Bible Software, updated their Android suite of mobile apps with some much-needed fixes. Android users of the Bible app on Android can get it from the Google Play Store using the links below.

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Logos Bible app for Android got an update to version 4.5 with some much-needed fixes and improvements.

Here’s a list of the new fixes and features.

What’s New in Logos Bible for Android?

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There’s a new setting in the visual settings of the Logos Bible app for Android. Tap on the screen to show the menu and hit the three vertical dots in the upper right corner (see example in the slide show above). Swipe down to the bottom and tap View Settings. Now scroll to the bottom of that screen and notice there’s a visual filter to turn on or off Notes or Community Notes. Notes refers to notes that user adds to a book or Bible. The Community Notes come from the Faithlife Community.

To add a note, select some text by holding down on the screen over a word you wish to select. Drag the note markers that appear at the beginning and end of that word so the selection covers all the text you want to select. Tap on Note. Choose Private for a user note and Community for a public note.

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Open Bible text only from the Visual Settings menu.

Another visual setting a person can choose is Bible text only, which strips away the verse numbers, chapter numbers and headings in Bibles that include pericope headings. Go back into the settings as described above and just above the two notes visual filters, there’s a Bible text only menu item. Tap it to customize what will show up. The resulting screen allows users to turn on and off the following:

  • Bible text formatting – things like bold or italics
  • Chapter/verse numbers
  • Footnote indicators
  • Non-bible text – the headings mentioned above
  • One verse per line – puts it in paragraph or verse per line mode

Speaking of selecting text, the Logos Bible 4.5 version now includes Smart Selection. This selects text by automatically picking a whole verse or paragraph for you. You can turn it off in the Settings menu.

Logos added support for Logos 6 Custom Reading Plans. A user can make a custom reading plan in Logos 6 that separates the text by more than just chapter or page. Until now these didn’t show up on the Android app’s home page. This is the most important update for my daily use.

User Collections now show up in Bible Search as well.

Improved or Fixed in Logos Bible 4.5

There’s a few things that Faithlife developers fixed in this version of Logos Bible Android app. They are as follows:

  • Scrolling now tracks correctly
  • Updated French translations
  • Improvements to authentication – where one app will now authenticate other apps. Sign into Logos Bible and Vyrso will also use this sign on.
  • Support for unattached notes – users can add general notes not attached to text or Bible verses
  • Notes upgrade – no longer gets stuck in an infinite loop if upgrade requires multiple passes

Various Logos Bible Apps for Android

There’s more than just the one Logos Bible app for Android. Logos offers a suite of app promotion for mobile Bible apps including the following:

  • Logos Bible – the flagship app with most of the features serious Bible students want
  • Faithlife Study Bible – focused on the Faithlife study tools with visual features like maps, images, etc.
  • Vyrso – primarily for Christian book reading
  • Noet – scholarly study focus
  • Verbum – focused on Catholic Christians
  • Biblia – Spanish version Bible app

Also search for these in the Amazon app store for Kindle support.